tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30618809.post7470788168654678872..comments2023-11-22T01:09:46.040-08:00Comments on myartspace>blog: Was Shepard Fairey’s Obama posters officially endorsed by the Obama campaign or not?Brian Skibahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03707398699208090454noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30618809.post-73345714587394291882009-05-13T17:08:00.000-07:002009-05-13T17:08:00.000-07:00Thought everyone should know that Yosi Sergant has...Thought everyone should know that Yosi Sergant has been appointed to the Office of Public Engagement at the White House. I guess it pays off to create a mock grassroots movement. This corporate PR firm pig has stolen history!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30618809.post-37361441808669258452009-02-17T10:09:00.000-08:002009-02-17T10:09:00.000-08:00Shale Grant said, “The poster enhanced Garcia's ph...Shale Grant said, “The poster enhanced Garcia's photo.”<BR/><BR/>It also took away from any profit that the copyright owner could have received since Shepard Fairey willfully avoided contacting the copyright owner. That will hurt him in court. Also, if you removed the stencil work the poster does not stand on its own. The photo is a vital aspect of the work itself.<BR/><BR/>Shale Grant said, “NotBalhatainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812426376810899256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30618809.post-83748134731185054402009-02-16T22:18:00.000-08:002009-02-16T22:18:00.000-08:00the simple fact of the matter is that 'fair use' i...the simple fact of the matter is that 'fair use' is valid in this instance. The poster enhanced Garcia's photo. Not to mention, if you're any kind of artist at all, you would've noticed that the photo is a photo and the illustration is an illustration. Fairey obviously changed more than 20% of the photo, therefore is legal. End of story. Where he gets his references and whether or not they're HISAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30618809.post-79580539904158848652009-02-13T00:25:00.000-08:002009-02-13T00:25:00.000-08:00Maybe Hillary was talking about art when she made ...Maybe Hillary was talking about art when she made that quip about "change you can Xerox..."<BR/><BR/><A>http://minesf.com/change_you_can_xerox.html</A>Christopher Simmonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11646694752279815006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30618809.post-36211304510652738032009-02-08T12:32:00.000-08:002009-02-08T12:32:00.000-08:00From a strictly aesthetic perspective, the photo i...From a strictly aesthetic perspective, the photo is nothing exceptional and would make a drab poster. Shep did more to that photo than he does with most his re-contextualizing. Try seeing the differences rather than the similarities. <BR/><BR/>From a legal perspective, I'm grateful there are artists like Shep pushing the boundaries of fair use for visuals the same way Negativland has been pushingUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11216116258179854613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30618809.post-32905323261401885592009-02-06T16:15:00.000-08:002009-02-06T16:15:00.000-08:00Telamachus, I've read that if Fairey had contacted...Telamachus, I've read that if Fairey had contacted the copyright owner-- considering the success of his clothing line and other ventures -- the agreement could have been around $10,000 for use of the image plus royalties. <BR/><BR/>So lets keep it simple and say the owner received a penny in fees for each poster that was printed. Depending on which figures you go buy-- as in the number of postersBalhatainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08812426376810899256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30618809.post-38706249755391820952009-02-06T15:53:00.000-08:002009-02-06T15:53:00.000-08:00This seems like an insane amount of attention to t...This seems like an insane amount of attention to the process that lead to the iconic image. Aren't there more worthy areas to focus this kind of examination on?<BR/><BR/>Think about it, if Fairey had approached the AP or Garcia (whatever the proper order is) and was granted permission to use the image, the net-present value of whatever fee they would negotiate would likely be a lot less than it Telamachushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09133400514607507137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30618809.post-10740896954453965262009-02-05T14:40:00.000-08:002009-02-05T14:40:00.000-08:00The Rene Mederos poster that Shep referenced was n...The Rene Mederos poster that Shep referenced was not iconic. That is why he settled out of court when the Mederos estate found out. The photograph by Garcia that the AP owns is not iconic either. If it was people would have known just by looking at 'Hope' that it was based on Garcia's photograph.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30618809.post-54520685357267024722009-02-05T14:38:00.000-08:002009-02-05T14:38:00.000-08:00The difference between Warhol and Fairey is that W...The difference between Warhol and Fairey is that Warhol used images that were widely know. The photograph of Monroe was already famous and the soup can was mmmmm, mmmmm good. People knew what Warhol was commenting. Fairey on the other hand uses photographs and other artworks that are not widely know. So you don't know what he is commenting on unless you buy his Supply and Demand book for $59.95. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30618809.post-84712922896860782212009-02-05T11:18:00.000-08:002009-02-05T11:18:00.000-08:00The Wired article had it wrong. The "Hope" image w...The Wired article had it wrong. The "Hope" image was the same as "Progress", just different words at the bottom. The one that was commissioned was "Change": http://obama.3cdn.net/637def08fdb3e24fb6_4wamvyu5c.jpgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30618809.post-24315312745486266602009-02-05T06:07:00.000-08:002009-02-05T06:07:00.000-08:00Shep is a genius. Shep is also a businessman. he i...Shep is a genius. Shep is also a businessman. he is no different from Andy Warhol in the appropriation of imagery. He goes beyond mere copying and creates new ways of seeing icons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30618809.post-81346963434619055472009-02-05T03:07:00.000-08:002009-02-05T03:07:00.000-08:00Good detective work, but you could basically boil ...Good detective work, but you could basically boil it all down to that one passage in the AP story where Shepard claims the campaign asked him to use an image they had the rights to. He's clearly didn't, and he simply covering their asses (poorly).<BR/><BR/>Now, why doesn't the AP realize that their own story contradicts itself?<BR/><BR/>Yep, the "Hope" poster was astroturf.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com